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The normative force of events

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The normative force of events

Postby Matthias » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:14 am

OS X 10.7 Lion arrives in summer. Everyone who wants to stay up to date or simply buys a new Mac will irreversibly not be able use FreeHand ever again. The faithful – already having to answer tougher getting questions concerning interoperability, printability and the suspicion of stubbornness – will become less and less. And within a few months the whole FreeHand discussion will have come to a natural end.

This is my biggest fear. Time is not on our side but on Adobe’s. So isn't it about time to really act – now? I think six month from now the whole topic will be dead.

If we need more money, then let’s try to raise some more – when there is a clear plan of action that is communicated throughout the FreeFreeHand community plus an idea how much money will be necessary this should be easily possible.

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Re: The normative force of events

Postby FFH Mark » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:47 pm

Indeed Mathias, the clock is running. I don't think there is a single member here who would disagree that the time frame for FreeHand Mac users is only a few months away. FreeFreeHand's support and legal teams certainly know this and we are more active than ever. For Windows users this isn't as great a threat since they have a legacy platform built into Windows 7 (Thanks to Virtual PC; a former Mac application.)

Get this discussion out everywhere you can; on all graphic forums, blogs, Apple's community board, Adobe's forums, Twitter, Facebook, even your own website. Make this public!

http://forums.adobe.com/community/gener ... m_feedback
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/240590?tstart=0
http://forums.adobe.com/community/desig ... ent/design
http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wal ... 5410772376
http://www.graphicdesignforum.com/forum/index.php
http://forum.computerarts.co.uk/index.php
http://www.creativepro.com/forum
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.asp ... aphicssoft
http://forums.macnn.com/art-and-graphic-design/
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/graphics-design-help/
http://www.cartotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=5796&st=0
http://www.designbackslash.com/2009/09/ ... omment-946
add to this list!

and if you haven't signed this...
http://www.creativereview.co.uk/back-is ... -anonymous

And don't forget the discussions on Adobe's new Subscription Service for CS5.5:
http://www.macworld.com/article/159149/ ... lysis.html
http://forums.macworld.com/index.php?/t ... -suite-55/

If you are a Mac user, then do what you can to make a Loud Noise!
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Re: The normative force of events

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Re: The normative force of events

Postby Sally » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:09 pm

Caution To The Wind

Has anyone actually approached Adobe to find out what is possible come summer? Get the backing of Quark perhaps ..... Where is that petition Mark was going to set up? Something has to be done pronto.

http://www.petition.co.uk/
http://www.ipetitions.com/start-petitio ... 4Qod8mx6Cg
http://epetitions.net/

http://www.quark.com/About_Quark/Compan ... _Bios.aspx

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressro ... utivebios/
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Re: The normative force of events

Postby FFH Mark » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:38 pm

Alas, the response for us petitioning Apple to include Rosetta in OS X Lion was nobody else except you and I, Sally. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=554 

FFH works by member consensus as much as possible. By listening to members wishes and comments, we then create a plan of action based on the majority opinions. If the majority of members have the same wish, we use that. Last years survey, for example, had a hugely overwhelming response that set the course we are taking today. You probably missed that survey being a more recent member, but it asked a range of questions from FH/AI usage to future concerns and possible solutions. 

From what is apparent on this forum, Apple's Lion 10.7 has drawn the line for all of us and Adobe to get this matter resolved once and for all. I think the lack of interest in our suggestion for a petition is because it is perceived as only a stop-gap measure until the next OS release breaks FreeHand for good. Maybe I am wrong here.

Anyway, my advice is to hold tight until May 1 when our next Newsletter will be announcing new initiatives. We reached the conclusion some time back that petitioning large corporations yields no results when you are considered a minority voice. That may or may not be true of Apple but certainly of the present owner of FreeHand. I wrote in the post above about making a "loud noise" publicly concerning FreeHand. This may make more sense in the weeks to come where the court of public opinion can be more effective when used with other measures.
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Re: The normative force of events

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Re: The normative force of events

Postby Sally » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:21 pm

Mark not petitioning Apple, but rather Adobe. Even better to contact the boss, with a plea from our hearts ..... Quark also might be interested .....
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Re: The normative force of events

Postby Snaptophobic » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:21 pm

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Re: The normative force of events

Postby FFH Mark » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:17 pm

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Re: The normative force of events

Postby Sally » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:49 pm

Apologies then and good on you all!!! What about getting Apple and Quark involved or another software company involved to buy the the license?

I followed a link here to Adobe Freehand Support following your response to my problem and see that there are loads of links to answers that go nowhere ..... Surely they still have an obligation since they are still selling the product .....
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